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Nate Manns posted an update: 8 months, 1 week ago
I fucking hate 9/11 acknowledging. People say they treat the day with such understanding and sympathy but still have the nerve to complain and rejoice about useless bullshit. *sigh*
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it amazes me how this one tragety has to be important to the world, but any other tragety can be looked over without a single thought.
It’s because America has center stage in the world right now. If you slap a teacher it gets a hell of a lot more attention than beating the shit out of somebody.
yeah but that’s bullshit, doesn’t matter who you are or what was done a tragety is a tragety.
Eh, even given total attention people don’t care enough. I think it is irrelevant.
my sentiments exactly.
because it was such a waste of innocent life. Nobody deserves to die like that.
Pearl harbor got the same recognition. And because we live in AMERICA we hear about american tragedy.
If we lived in south africa we’d be looking back at the apartheid and their reign of terror.
If we lived in Germany we’d remember Hitler’s bullshit.
It just depends on where you’re from. China doesn’t give a flying fuck about the date today.
Be thankful you were born here and now instead of in some other fucked up country in some other fucked up time.
Just my thoughts
Inu is in Canada; they really don’t care about it. Though not recognized nationally I guarantee a hell of a lot more people know about American crisis than any other country compared on an international scale. I have no pride in this country at all.
No but you can definitely show honor and respect to those that are gone.
some thing that really pisses me off about 9/11 memorials is how we make such a big deal over the innocent lives lost on that day BUT the military has killed far more innocent lives overseas and has caused far more devastation over the past few years than on 9/11. hell during the raiding of Osama Bin Ladin’s house last year a few innocent lives were lost. yet America is still the ”Good guy”.
probably because they bombed us first?
Think their country doesn’t mourn their innocents gone?
I’m sure they do just as we do. People might look different and act different but we all feel the same.
look the arguement is whether or not 9/11 was bad, it was, the original arguement was: ”Why should the world outside of the united states have to care”
Plenty of places get bombed and plenty of innocents die, shit happens, in my opinion the 9/11 bombing isn’t special, so if EVERYONE in the world doesn’t have to mourn all the horrific genocide of the world, why should EVERYONE in the world mourn 9/11?
”because they bombed us first”?!? ok..school time, listen dude: did you know that the CIA met secretly with Bin Landen 3 days before 9/11 and planned together the whole thing?!? and thats just one tidbit in the pool of information that people choose not to see. If even after all these years you really don’t know (or don’t want to realize) that 9/11 was an inside attack planned by the american government (a scam to start just another bullshit war that is still going on) then no offense but i will take you as a purely stupid person…so you might as well deal with it dude: the men and women fighting in the US army in Iraq and Afghanistan are just pawns..sheep to the slaughter. There’s no freedom to fight for, you ARE free. And the US wouldn’t need to be protected if you didn’t piss everyone one off and stealing what isn’t yours
@Hercules
1. That is a conspiricy theory and cannot be proven anymore then the conspiricy that the persians did it
2. Its not a fact
3. You’re getting highly out of hand for something that doesn’t really concern you cause you don’t like in the US or any of the other countries alegged to play a part
4. This is just a debate on opinions, there is no need to toss out word like ”purely stupid person” etc.
5. Just relax and let it be over, people disagree sometimes, end of statement, so don’t take it like a personal stab in the gut.
1) i AM relaxed, i’m simply stating my opinion on the matter..and i know you are doing the same thing too so no, i won’t take it as a ”personal stab in the gut”
2) Conspiracy theory it may be but it IS the most probable scenario since it happened in the governmental system of a country that LIES about everything that happens in the world, including 9/11 and not to mention that bullshit first moon landing. The most LYING government of Earth that has loads of skeletons in the closet, concerning black ops, black budges, mind control programs, alien exchange, etc, etc…mind you, i have NOTHING against the people of the USA, i’m just saying that their government is one of the most corrupted secretive and fucked-up governments in the world
3) You are right, i should’nt have tossed that ”purely stupid person” thing, so i apologise
4) i know that people disagree and i want to see them doing so in a civilsied respectful manner,,
Secrets give birth to conspiracy theories… But, you know, science gives birth to theories also. What makes a conspiracy theory more false than an other theory?
Anyways, why care about the past? Because we can learn from it? Learn to do what? Wage more war? I really don’t think anyone – be it american or otherwise – should be concerned about an anniversary of some tragedy. Be it a conspiracy or not. People should remember the happy things, not the sad ones. If they’re not useful, that is.
you are right Alouaisa’s Knight Bin Laden was registered as an american citizen under the name Tim Osman at the time. The funny thing is that this isn’t some kinda of conspiracy theory or top secret knowledge but common knowledge that was released to the public
I live in South Africa and we don’t honour the fucking dead from Apartheid? You know why? Because there’s no point in holding a fucking grudge forever :l.
I think it’s sad that 3000 people died in 9/11 – but I think it’s sadder that America killed thousands (if not millions) of innocent people in the middle east. Just because one of your buildings got flown into by a small group of terrorists, doesn’t mean that it gives ANYBODY the right to go bomb the shit out of an entire country.
I’m not American and I know about 9/11, it gets recognition here too. Not that it deserves it.
Also, we all deserve to die
. Unfortunately some people actually DID, and that’s sad because as people we mourn them; but really… America stretched it a bit out of proportion (just putting it out there…).
When last did you hear people complaining about Hiroshima
?
ALRIGHT! Straight from the source okay? My problem is not whether 9/11 had innocent people die. It is not an argument of when we should honor and mourn death. It is the fact that people are ARROGANT enough to say that they understand death and the value of life; what was lost that day; and how much it hurts and STILL go day to day worrying about useless bullshit that hardly affects their day in the slightest. You want to cry over a dead body; fine, it isn’t my business what you felt for that person. But quit acting like some arrogant asshole who thinks they understand and empathize death. It’s bullshit. We done?
Yes we are, Nate. Sorry if things got out of hand with this conversation.
It’s fine. I think just people in general on this website (Not trying to stereotype but it happens an awful lot) tend to veer way off topic from the actual issue. Perhaps it is just because the subject is so…potent? Regardless, it is just frustrating to see people go to a pissing contest of what tragedies are bad or what country is better and blah blah blah when that is entirely irrelevant to my actual point. At the risk of pissing people off I think it shows a bit of arrogance that we think we know more than we really do. Maybe something to ponder for a while.
Eh, I don’t mind a decent argument. But it is not a decent argument when;
A) It is irrelevant to the actual subject.
B) It is not worth the effort to argue.
I agree with you Arthur potent topics have a bad tendency to go off topic thus resulting in irrelevant arguments making everyone involved seem like an arrogant douche. But we are a family, and like every other family, fights can happen, but in the end they are resolved.
I definitely understand and empathize death. Don’t say I don’t when you don’t know shit about me. Nate I respect you but seriously. Don’t go there.
^^Truth you two. Gotta love and hate family in the same sentence
I don’t need to know anything about anybody to know for a fact you don’t empathize or understand death. You can empathize the loss of someone you are close to; but YOU YOURSELF do not know what it is or how it feels to physically die. I don’t either. NOBODY does because once you die you don’t come back. You don’t understand it either. You can have your stabs in the dark with religion and scientific theories but no matter where they lay you do not understand it even if you do guess correctly. You can know the ins and outs of the physical happenings of death and the emotional strain it puts on others; but to say you know, understand, or empathize with death is absolutely absurd. And just to play it on the safe side PLEASE don’t feed me the ”Oh yeah well I have died (mentally or physically) before. I know what hell is like” and so on because I have heard it all. No, mental death death is not something you can fix. Assuming you would go into that then you would understand that something or someone (a passion or what have you) supplies a heartbeat to your passion to live. Take that away and you begin to deteriorate. Eventually you can crack but that is not long before your physical body shuts down and dies as well (assuming it doesn’t before hand). Sorry, but unless you can prove to me that you can empathize with actual death then I refuse to look at the claim as anything more than either nonsense, misguidance, or arrogance.